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Attendees
- Paul Carver (AT&T)
- Liza Fung (AT&T)
- Casey Cain (Linux Foundation)
- Jim St. Leger (Intel)
- Vicky Brasseur (Juniper)
- Ian Rae (CloudOps)
Agenda
Minutes
- ccain: There's an uncontested slot for the TC
- Please nominate now or ask others to do so
- DEADLINE IS MONDAY
- ARB
- Paul: drop ARB, instead use PTLs as an ARB?
- Will need to make sure one person isn't the PTL of all 5 of the dev projects, naturally
- Won't work w/o diverse PTLs, of course
- Have definition for PTLs but they're not really mentioned beyond that; would be good to engage them
- VMB: How are PTLs selected?
- Believe it's selection by the projects
- ccain: Yes, require more dev diversity for committers & PTLs
- Intention was for ARB to go away in time
- ARB doesn't need to be a part of the TSC; could be sub-committee
- VMB: All would be best to discuss after TF has a TSC
- Paul: Yup, but folks should remember to chime in on the mailing list thread now
- ccain: Should also make sure that the PTLs should be highly encouraged to be at TSC meetings
- A conversation for after the TSC is elected
- VMB: Takes the action to write up issues for these in the TF docs repo
- Upcoming events…?
- ccain: ONS, KubeCon.
- Also LFN is working on a collocated dev event at a university
- Details of this are in progress, but probably June-ish
- Will keep folks in the loop; update in early January
- Ian: How'd things go at KubeCon & the TF workshop?
- ccain: Dev event, ~34 in attendance
- Well-engaged, interesting discussions
- ccain: In the booth, a lot of familiarity w/TF
- A lot of questions & engagement there
- Feel good about that
- Joseph: Workshop was an interesting day
- Lots of good discussions w/folks
- Very good to see a lot of different use cases
- Learned a lot about how TF can make it easier to build & run
- Feel it was a very good day
- Ian: Clear enough communication of TF differentiation w/in ecosystem with use cases? Hearing confusion from some folks.
- VMB: I think we could use more use cases showing who should use TF, when, why, & what problems it'll solve
- Ian: But competition between similar projects? LF's opinion here?
- ccain: LF wants all the projects to succeed, even if there's apparent or potential overlap in functionality
- Liza: Being confused w/which projects?
- ccain: ODL, any other SDN controller really; messaging & positioning up to the project
- Ian: Calico, Weave, Flannel. Particularly the cloud native stuff.
- Ian: Anyone in LF concerned w/market confusion? Complex ecosystem now.
- "Hey, maybe we should help make it clear what the relative strengths of the different projects are?"
- Regarded as an issue at all?
- ccain: LF sees that diversity is key. Not position of LF to promote projects over each other.
- Ian: Opportunity for TF to take leadership here
- "Lots of networking projects. Here's where we fit in."