Date
22 Aug 2019
Attendees
Casey Cain
VM (Vicky) Brasseur (she/her)
Daniel Pono Takamori
Darien Hirotsu
Edward Ting
Martin Mailand
Randy Bias
Rudra Dubey
Syed Ahmed
Valentin Sinitsyn
Lisa Caywood
Ian Rae
Agenda
Start the Recording
Antitrust Policy
Agenda Bashing (Roll Call, Action Items (5 minutes)
General Topics
Priorities & budget
TF Topics for LFN Newsletter
SLAs for code and Blueprint Reviews
Reminder:
TFP-88
comments and questions by tomorrow; we will review with Juniper on TWS call
LF Support Tickets
LFN Infra WG mailing list and meeting
DDF Topics
Minutes
Action items
RLB adding link to Zuul now
RLB started conversation about gap analysis
Priorities & budget
Budget discussions are happening in the LFN Strategic Committee
TF has no representation there (neither does Juniper, fyi)
Won't discuss budget now
Priorities drive everything (incl budget asks) and need to have a qualitative discussion about those
Reviewing
2019 TSC Priorities
Community Releases
Progress being made, but still awaiting final move
Requires a ton of test automation
Juniper is moving toward 100% automated test coverage
Ian: Do we really have to wait for Juniper?
RLB: Automation accompanied by culture change
Some parts of the community have test capabilities (ATT) but can't use them because they don't fit in existing test harness
Much larger question about how we're going to do testing in general
A lot of question marks & don't know timing of 100% testing for Juniper
Don't know whether we have the community resources to do it on our own
Ian: As a community, need an understanding of what Juniper's trying to accomplish & by when
Open-ended puts community in unfortunate state
Can't tell what leadership community can contribute
RLB: Might be able to get to hybrid process
Move CI/CD but ask Juniper to continue heavy lift of manual testing?
Might have to get creative on this problem solving in 2020
Improved ease of use
This one isn't going away any time soon
Get UX benchmarks against other projects
Move to #1 slot for 2020
Governance process
Still hoping can make progress on this before EOY
Improving developer diversity
A lot of outreach this year, incl. a lot in China
GSoC was good
tf-devstack, architecture doc, fixed CLA process
A very good start
Key criteria for moving out of incubation stage, so still a top priority
LC: Real goal to get out of incubation phase? Build everything around that?
RLB: Good idea, combine other goals under this
Characterize as
growing & documenting adoption of Tungsten Fabric
How to make community engagement and management better? (needs to be a top priority)
Making sure engagement of Juniper is better, engagement of TSC, etc.
Slack channels get answers questioned, mailing lists are engaging and active, etc
TFB-88
Please take the chance to review this blueprint
https://jira.tungsten.io/browse/TFP-88
Gerrit issues
Fayaz in unable to commit at all
HUGE PROBLEM: Fayaz need to have his code landed before tomorrow
Opened issues
Pono: Will have this sorted before EOD
DDF Schedule and topic proposals can be found here:
https://wiki.tungsten.io/x/J4SZ
LFN Infra mailing list:
https://lists.lfnetworking.org/g/infrawg
Get people from TF to engage on this
Can add yourself to it: lists.lfnetworking.org
Can get the invite to the meetings this way
VMB: Who's going to rep TF here?
RLB: They're not supporting Zuul, and we're not in a place where we can talk about this
VMB: Still need a rep there to keep an eye on things & influence decisions to include TF needs
Ian: Weekly call?
CC: Weekly for now, ramp down to quarterly eventually
Ian: CloudOps will commit to having someone on that call
TF topics for LFN newsletter?
Rollover topic; don't know what's up with this
Action items
Randy Bias
Talk to Josh George about participation in DDF at Kubecon NA (San Diego in November)
Casey Cain
To investigate holding a DDF topic around PTL Structure.
12 Sept 2019
Randy Bias
Create a wiki page for 2020 priorities
Casey Cain
Email to dev and tsc mailing lists re: DDF topics
Ian Rae
To find a CloudOps person who can participate in the LFN InfraWG mailing list