Attendees

  • Alex Levine (Progmatic)
  • VMB (Juniper)
  • Randy Bias (Juniper)
  • David McBride (LF)

Agenda

  • Update from Alex
  • Update from David

Minutes

  • Update from Alex
    • APEX is discontinued; PTL resigned & there's no replacement
      • So we'll stop working on this if it's not going to be supported
      • DM: Generally a larger problem for LFN
        • The certification/validation program (OVP) is reliant on Dovetail; Dovetail relies on OPNFV CI infra, OPNFV CI infra relies on several installers including APEX
        • After Hunter release, the OPNFV CI infra will be down to only 1 installer (Fuel) from 5
      • DM: Someone's been working on XCI (cross-community installer)
        • Handful of communities migrated to it
        • See it as the future of OPNFV
      • Issues
        • Dovetail has never been integrated with XCI, so don't know the challenges there
          • Only 1-2 more OVP releases before Dovetail needs to do something; probably next year will become an issue
        • APEX was most popular installer for projects
          • Will try to move projects to XCI
          • But XCI is sparsely supported
          • DM is actively seeking dev resources to support XCI
      • DM thinks it's in TF's interest to support XCI
        • So…contribute resources? To help TF and everyone else as well?
    • AL: Questions about this
      • Fuel is EOL from Mirantis…?
        • DM: Still called Fuel, but actually upstream is using new Mirantis MCP
      • OK, but Fuel used to be most popular, haven't heard of folks using MCP, so XCI should be the way forward, but…not enough support?
        • Does that mean no one's supporting OPNFV, if they're not interested in supporting deployment tools for it?
      • DM: Value of OPNFV is providing feedback to upstream components about how they're applied at telco solutions
        • Also, the release artefacts act as proof of concept for integrations
    • AL: Options for TF
      • Support some other installer (Helm OpenStack, Juju, whatever), but this is complicated
      • Support XCI
        • Investigated this
        • Full-scale deployment
        • Consider adding to XCI a deployer already used with Contrail?
        • Alex has to talk to someone about this to get their sign-off
    • RLB: Folks have wanted TF involved in XCI for a while
      • Have been other priorities
        • Resource contention problem
      • At some point this year we'll probably end up working on it, though
      • Still working on APEX until Hunter…?
        • AL: Was the case, until this past Monday
        • DM: Tim has said he will support APEX through Hunter
        • AL: But makes no sense to do the work if it's discontinued after Hunter
          • RLB: Need more info
    • AL: For sure, won't make the Hunter release now
      • Discuss next steps & resources on the call in 2 weeks
    • DM: Will meet with Fatih at OSLS
      • RLB/AL: AL & team will be in Bay Area at that time
      • DM: Will try to get a meeting together w/everyone & Fatih
  • PTL stuff
    • omg Stuart, please send an email to tie this off
    • DM will handle it via the mailing list & tie things off
    • DM: next step is for AL to sort out the committers
      • Remove inactive, add new
      • AL: Already looking into it

Action Items

  • AL: Meet with Fatih to discuss options
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