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Date

Attendees



Agenda

  • Start the Recording
  • Antitrust Policy
  • Agenda Bashing (Roll Call, Action Items (5 minutes)
  • General Topics
    • Priorities & budget
    • TF Topics for LFN Newsletter
    • SLAs for code and Blueprint Reviews
    • Reminder: TFP-88 comments and questions by tomorrow; we will review with Juniper on TWS call
    • LF Support Tickets
    • LFN Infra WG mailing list and meeting
    • DDF Topics

Minutes

  • Action items
    • RLB adding link to Zuul now
    • RLB started conversation about gap analysis
  • Priorities & budget
    • Budget discussions are happening in the LFN Strategic Committee
      • TF has no representation there (neither does Juniper, fyi)
      • Won't discuss budget now
    • Priorities drive everything (incl budget asks) and need to have a qualitative discussion about those
    • Reviewing 2019 TSC Priorities
      • Community Releases
        • Progress being made, but still awaiting final move
        • Requires a ton of test automation
          • Juniper is moving toward 100% automated test coverage
        • Ian: Do we really have to wait for Juniper?
          • RLB: Automation accompanied by culture change
          • Some parts of the community have test capabilities (ATT) but can't use them because they don't fit in existing test harness
          • Much larger question about how we're going to do testing in general
          • A lot of question marks & don't know timing of 100% testing for Juniper
          • Don't know whether we have the community resources to do it on our own
        • Ian: As a community, need an understanding of what Juniper's trying to accomplish & by when
          • Open-ended puts community in unfortunate state
          • Can't tell what leadership community can contribute
        • RLB: Might be able to get to hybrid process
          • Move CI/CD but ask Juniper to continue heavy lift of manual testing?
          • Might have to get creative on this problem solving in 2020
      • Improved ease of use
        • This one isn't going away any time soon
        • Get UX benchmarks against other projects
        • Move to #1 slot for 2020
      • Governance process
        • Still hoping can make progress on this before EOY
      • Improving developer diversity
        • A lot of outreach this year, incl. a lot in China
        • GSoC was good
        • tf-devstack, architecture doc, fixed CLA process
        • A very good start
        • Key criteria for moving out of incubation stage, so still a top priority
        • LC: Real goal to get out of incubation phase? Build everything around that?
          • RLB: Good idea, combine other goals under this
          • Characterize as growing & documenting adoption of Tungsten Fabric
      • How to make community engagement and management better?  (needs to be a top priority)
        • Making sure engagement of Juniper is better, engagement of TSC, etc.
        • Slack channels get answers questioned, mailing lists are engaging and active, etc
    • TFB-88
    • Gerrit issues
      • Fayaz in unable to commit at all 
        • HUGE PROBLEM: Fayaz need to have his code landed before tomorrow
      • Opened issues
      • Pono: Will have this sorted before EOD
    • DDF Schedule and topic proposals can be found here: https://wiki.tungsten.io/x/J4SZ
    • LFN Infra mailing list: https://lists.lfnetworking.org/g/infrawg
      • Get people from TF to engage on this
      • Can add yourself to it: lists.lfnetworking.org
      • Can get the invite to the meetings this way
      • VMB: Who's going to rep TF here?
      • RLB: They're not supporting Zuul, and we're not in a place where we can talk about this
      • VMB: Still need a rep there to keep an eye on things & influence decisions to include TF needs
      • Ian: Weekly call?
        • CC: Weekly for now, ramp down to quarterly eventually
        • Ian: CloudOps will commit to having someone on that call
    • TF topics for LFN newsletter?
      • Rollover topic; don't know what's up with this

Action items

  • Randy Bias Talk to Josh George about participation in DDF at Kubecon NA (San Diego in November)
  • Casey Cain To investigate holding a DDF topic around PTL Structure.  
  • Randy Bias Create a wiki page for 2020 priorities
  • Casey Cain Email to dev and tsc mailing lists re: DDF topics
  • Ian Rae To find a CloudOps person who can participate in the LFN InfraWG mailing list
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